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Post by WildCherry on 10/22/2008, 4:56 pm

ok sorry back had to pick up the kidos. the eldest done gone and missed the buss. and then we had to go and get some slushys. kinda hot to day for a fall afternoon.

so any way over the years one thing after aonther. terry deals with. NO ONE UNDERSTANDING him or havein any kind of idea what to do. and so his grades fall like a lead fart. and this trend goes on and on. to the doctors over and over. shrink after shrink. exam afer exam. test after test. red tape all over the dam place. cant even see my way past it any more.

some agree with my thoughts others disagreeing. assbackwordupsidedowninsideout test after test NEVER being constant in scores. lmao just as a example lmao I HAD TO LAUGH at them yesterday. last years exam said he was at a 7th grade reading lvl and a 9th grade compernention or vocabualry lvl. BUT this years score said he was at below grade lvl. lmao he has done been held back mind you. so even lower then just below grade lvl the test come back this year. LMAO soo tell me how dose he get a reading score of 5 grade lvls above adverage one year and then trun aroudn the next year and get a score of 2 yr behind average the next? LMAO DUH. lol

piff then the crap yesterday just made me want to SCREAM HELLO DUMFU**nKS open your eyes to the facts infrount of your face.... dump your trained book and cookie cuter plans. and see the real thing stairing you back in the face every dam day for the last 2 yrs. see the BOY not the numbers.

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Post by WildCherry on 10/22/2008, 5:36 pm

what they need to do is get the hell out of he popular opinons of yoru tipical failing child. get of the A.D.D. high horse and popular demands there of.

they need to lose the world view of the "hot topic"

and really take a step back and look at the facts of this child. get rid of the cookie cuter book training they have been tought to fallow all their years workin with kids.

terry is terry. not joe blow. he dose not and will not ever be a joe blow stario typ child. he will never fall in to their numbers as they know them.

his "lack of attention" is not a "lack of attention" he is and has always seen life in a differant view then we do on a daily bases. this boy sees life. ...... mmmmm well the best way i think i can discibe it is like a game of chess.

when playing chess you are thinkin 3-5 moves a head and you are planing on differant posable moves of the other player. there for you see a move that can be made and you have already desided what the next 5 moves will be befor you make the first posable avalable move.

ok now terry does the same. in every day things. he is always thinking way to far ahead of the game. he is always makeing judgements based on the first sentance you speak to him.

so when he is "not paying atenction" in our eyes. we are infact WORNG by that assumstion. for the true fact is this little boy has already gone past you in converstation. and already has a game plan.

this has been provein over and over and over again many times to us and the teachers. they can give him directions. as he is in his "oun little world....lookin past them in to the great wide wonder of terryland." and you can ask the boy 2min 2 hours or even 2 weeks later to tell you what you had told him at that time.. he can and will repeat dam near to the word EXACTLY what you said. (its almost scarry in a way)

the porb is not with him not paying attention. the porb is how do we get him to come back to our lvl. how do we get him to come back to the and make the first move in the game?

an A.D.H.D or A.D.D. child is incapale of compleating any thing in this way. as his mind does not pay atention to what is beein told him his mind wanders and he has a truely hard time keeping it in track. there for he does not. pay atention to what yoru tellin him. or comply corectly with the request you give him. simply cuz he dont recall hearing you tell him what ot do. its their brain waves stop at a certain point. makein it almost imposable for a young child to control him or her self.

my son does not respond or react in such a manor at all. he brain waves are not stoping... they are just over baring or slow in phyical respons ot your request. and beause of this. often it would apear as he is "not paying atenton " to you. lmao but the true fact is with this little boy. he has gone beond payin atention to you. he has already anilized you. he has already done read you like a book befor your even done talkin to him. and because of this he is extreamly intelagent. and yet a scacal out cast of our cookie cuter way of life. this boy has already fount the cure BEFOR he even fully understod the cause.

therfor makein it extreramly hard for him to back track to the start of the problems. to back track to our request of him. and to be able to tell you HOW HE KNOWS THE ANWSER. he can look at a math prob and know the anwser BUT he truely does not know how or why. and so forceing him to show his work. is a epic down fall fail.
and with out showing his work or his intelagence on paper. he will fail. its a rock and hard place for the poor kid. and im at a loss how to help him any more.

i would dubble dog dare any of those high and mighty educators to even tip toe in to his little world of "terryland"

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Post by tree68 on 10/23/2008, 5:28 am

hugs serina - the so-wonderful mother of terry.

you mentioned the head of that school has an autistic child - right?

have you ask the head or that person from autistic organsiation? for support or help with dealing with those oh-so-ignorant people/teachers?

"every child has a right to their own childhood..." that's my own saying...

for example - a Deaf child's bill of rights.

communication is the heart of any educational and human experience.

access to communication is a child's right.

A Deaf child has the right to the option of being in an educational programme permitting direct and easy communication with peers and with teachers and other staff.

A deaf child has the right to have his/her language and commincation mode respected and provided for.

A deaf child has the right to the same communication opportunities as other children.

A deaf child has the right to be in a programme in which staff understand deafness and have been specifically trained in deafness.

A deaf child has the right to appropiate communication access to all school activities.

A deaf child has the right to have parents able to make an informed choice between educational placemnt options.

A deaf child has the right to a least restrictive envoironment in which there is a critical mass of age and lauguage peers.

A deaf child has the right to live and enjoy its own childhood.
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serina - you can type up all these rights and adapt these for terry's own world of autism Wink

serina - every deaf child is different ... every deaf child has a different hearing levels, different speech skills, different brains, different attitudes... so children with autism are all different too Wink it is good you love and accepted terry as he is. That's important and he will thank you for rest of his life. Very Happy

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Post by WildCherry on 10/23/2008, 7:39 am

yes hun the superintendant has autistic son. but he was unable to help in the long run. he did try but terry is not autistic ENOUGH for services.

LMAO. who knows. im really begaining to wonder if im really doing anything at all right to help this kido. i have had meeting after meeting and doc after doc test after test shrink after shrink............. im begaining to wonder if there is any posable leagal way to just tell the goverment and shcool boards to STUFF IT UP THEIR HINNY ENDS. sigh but i fear wth out a degree in fancy booklearning ill just the shot down if i even tryed.

im still jsut at a dam loss any more.

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Post by WildCherry on 10/23/2008, 9:03 am

you know after re reading all this and rethinking EVERY THING. and all the trubbles issues and drama of this..... i think i have 2 choices left.

1. pack him up and ship him off to the north pole to live with santa and the elfs. (just think of how much he could help santa. heck we might have x-mas 2x a yr or more with his tec genus and porductivty of extra toy production)

2. just toss my hands in the air and say f*** it.

i mean really the boy can not fail any more in his academics. maybe he is right. maybe it is pointless to keep pushing. (under the cerant standers of this day and age)

im mean think about it really.
enstine= 100% socal out cast. failor of many things. yet changed the world.
bock= socal out cast. changed the way of music as we know it to day.
eger alin poo.= deamed a phyco nut case with out a shell. yet his works are studyed even to this day in all english classes around the world. such a genus in his oun right he has a dictionary of his own words. and laugue
and even our beloved creator of sir mickey mouse. a mr walt disney. lmao you all think a full grown man who talks to a talkin anamated mouse is "normal" lmao yet he had a busness genus about him that is still makein him billons of dollars even after his death.

maybe it is time to just let the tides roll. if you will?

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Post by tree68 on 10/23/2008, 6:38 pm

hugs....no WC... hugs . . . .dont give up but dont let others pester both you and Terry. you both have lives to live and enjoy life. blinky hell why should you try to convince them all if they wont listen - just pure waste of time.

couldn't you both have a game of learning all sorts of things at home instead of trying to convince them higher uppers than you?

would terry like to learn in his own pace/ by going to the library - farms - factories - having baby chicks himself etc etc - not neccessarily all above but what you both chose to enjoy? then learn at home in peace? is it possible?

if not - is there an alternative school where they let children learn at their own pace? would he fit in with gifted children? gifted children would be more mature and understanding thus better playmates for Terry?

keep a folder all on terry's tests and his dated schoolwork in case so called authorities chose to take over ... get that friend lawyer to help you to keep Terry where you as his own mother want him. not forgetting Terry's and your rights.

remember every child deserve to enjoy its own childhood... and so every mother do deserve to enjoy each of her children too! hugs

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Post by tree68 on 10/23/2008, 6:51 pm

i have looked after 8 deaf boys 7-8 years old for six months.

one of them i couldn't understand - one staff commented on my behaviour with one of the boys. so i watched him and myslef closely - he wouldn't do anything as told but funnily he would when i talked to other boys. i realised he's better off left alone and he made his bed very neatly in his own time. hated being woken in the mornings so i gently woke him then moved on without eye contact...

yes he's autistic ... he mostly played on his own ... yet he played with others when he wants to which was very pleasing to see.

but one time i will never forget - the fire evacuation practice - when i explain it was a pretend fun and why. he started crying when i pointed out the red light bulb and explained that it will flash. i got other boys to crowd around him and tell him themselves - not me. he accepted to lie on his bed like all others did.

Boy! when light flashed he started to cry and wouldn't move.... all the boys crowded around him and comforted, signing to him to come with them. i knew pulling or pushing wouldn't work. we then managed to walk outside as instructed. i got told off being so slow... i explained to him why - why should i? whole school knew he's different.

i have a feeling he is working as a mechanic like his father.

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Post by WildCherry on 10/23/2008, 10:01 pm

its not your falt treenz and you should not have got the gripe out you did.

maybe they where in the wrong?

many autistic children apear deah. when in fact they are not. many times they get bunded in with deah children cuz the doctors can not get a acurit readin or test resolt. so they go in as "beter safe then sorry" lmao and seeings they do not respond in comuation like or with us. i feel placeing them with deah companions might not be the best thing to do. and for a few reasons really.
1 they do not have fine moder skills. there for ASL is not likely a laugae they will ever repeat back in conversation.
2. they do not look at you with eye contact. this to is needed to understand the deah.
3. they do not tend to undersand faceal expresions or body laugae. mm meaning they dont understand a smile is ment as happy or a joke. or that a tear means sadness or sarow. these are emostions they can express at times but do not understand in every day comuations, or as in a relationship of other persons around them.
4. they do not complay or take part in "pretend or imagenary" play. its not with in their programing to do so. EVERY THING is black or white to them. their is not inbetween the lines or gray area to be expored by them.
5. pratice drills or pretend drills are very frighting to them. as they do not understand the consept or need to prepair.

when you said the light will flash if there is a fire or for us to pratice what to do if a fire starts. he understood only that the red light ment danger. after that there really was not much more you could have said that he would have understood.

they then to over react to a posable out of come of a situation. BEFOR. understanding the meanin of the situation.

so in cases like that one sould tell the boys we are going out side as soon as we see the red light come on. and left it at that.
when the red light flashed you would do as instruted by the fire officals and proformed your drill.

then AFTER the drill and AFTER your all in side safe and sound. you would THEN explane to the little boy why you fallowd the drill at the red light.

this takes a way most fear. cuz now in their little brain. it has truned form a FIRE DEATH DOOM AND DISTRUCTION AT RED LIGHT .. to GO OUT SIDE IF YOU SEE THE RED LIGHT.

if that makes sence lol hahahah

they should have explained better to you his condition. also lookin them in the eye dont bother them at all. they just look past you regardless.

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Post by tree68 on 10/23/2008, 11:39 pm

wow serina ... you got it right to leave explaining till after....

is there a worship emoticon here anna?

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Post by WildCherry on 10/24/2008, 8:48 am

meh treenz hun its not that big a deal lol.

mm these kids just think differantly then we "normal" people do is all. and its our reponsabilty IMHO to rise OR fall to their lvl of thinking in order to acheve a gole.

example with my son. simpal tasks or chores become over welming to him. and its not cuz the task or chore is to big for him. but cuz he OVER ANILAZES EVERY STEP of the task or chore.

the task of takeing out the trash can be over welming to him. expecaly IF the main trash can is not in the location it is spoto be at. (maybe out side the fence at the street? or the other side of hte house?)

the simple tast of takeing it out side becomes a HUGE LIST of steps to be taken. that list sometimes gets mixed up and confuseing to them. (cant get back to the first step of the act)

at these times terry will tend to say " i cant take out the trash, the trash can is out side the fence."

now to us normal people we see that as so what just go get it then. but to them it is not that simple.

so at that time the best way for me to get terry to compleat the task is to brack it down in to step by step instructions. this tends to eather 1. help him to compleat the task with you by his side. or 2 PISS HIM OFF TO NO END. lol and they say these children have no emotions LMAO HAHAH

so what i do with my son. is i begain to "talk down to him" as if he was stupid. this tends to ruffle his feathers. and anger him as he knows he is not stupid.

i say things like " ok terry i really do understand this is a really super hard thing for you. but let me help you do it. dont worry terry mommy will hold your hand all the way. now terry lets think about this together ok? what do you think should be the first step in this project? i think its to get off the sofa... do you remember how to do that terry?..you have to put both feets on the floor, BUT ONLY ONE AT A TIME!!! dont hurt your slef...." and this gose on in tell 1 of 2 things happens.
1 he compleats the job of takeing out the trash with me by his side.
or
2. he gets pissed enought to put his hands on his head and scream at me. I KNOW I KNOW I KNOW!!!.
the later will resolt in him runing a head of me to open the gate bring in the trash can and then go and close the gate to. as he informs me SEE MOM IM NOT STUPID I KNOW WHAT TO DO LEAVE ME A LONE!!
eather out come will resolt in the finshed task.

some times depending on his reaction. i might got even a step ferther in messin with his little head. you see its hard for my son to reconize sarcazam. he just dont get it im tellin ya the boy dont get it.

so if he is mildly still agnree. LMAO ill hop up and down in GREAT EXCTIMENT for his achevement. clap my hands and say GOOD BOY TERRY!!! HERE!! and hand him a cookie. THIS COOKIE IS FOR BEING SUCH A VERY GOOD BOY!!

lol whats the point of kids if you can mess with their little minds sometimes right? but this is really not a mean thing if you look at the reason behind it. this teaches him to reconize sarcazam in a over dramaic way. for life long skills of "normal" interaction with other people. it also rewords him for a job well done. and he really likes cookies. lol

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Post by tree68 on 10/24/2008, 6:50 pm

laughing at all your posts - you are good for all of us!

you'll make a very good comedian Wink

still a wonderful mother to Terry and the girls - aren't they lucky to have you CW!!!!

is it possible to home teach Terry? just for couple hours a day? teach him to study on his own? surely all teachers could be trained to teach children to study on their own to benefit them for the rest of their lives?

ever thought of making a floor show being a comedian acting as a part of a mother re fishing tales etc... i am sure many people would simply LOVE your story-telling? if i get an interpreter i wouldn't be able to get the story right as the interpreter will have a hard time to keep her/his face straight right to the end?!

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